…If you believe THIS, then have I got some swampland for you!


Boys and Girls, apparently Al-Qaeda has endorsed John McCain for President. Thats right, I said APPARENTLY. Unfortunately, there are SOME out there in cyberland (you know you you are, right PENDEL?) who actually think this is legit! As in, “I saw it in my hometown paper so it must be true!”

So. Lets examine this shall we? just WHAT was said and by whom?

The Washington Post reports that certain Al Qaeda terrorist web sites are actually suggesting that the terrorists would prefer a McCain Presidency to an Obama one.

” ‘Al-Qaeda will have to support McCain in the coming election,’ said a commentary posted Monday on the extremist Web site al-Hesbah, which is closely linked to the terrorist group. It said the Arizona Republican would continue the ‘failing march of his predecessor,’ President Bush.”

The theory seems to be that the War on Terror caused the current economic crisis and since John McCain would continue it, Al Qaeda reasons that the economic crisis would deepen. Barack Obama would ease off on fighting Muslim terrorists, therefore the economic crisis would ease, therefore America would benefit, therefore bad for Al Qaeda.

The theory is, of course, utterly lunatic. The current economic crisis was caused by interference in the mortgage markets caused by liberals using the Community Reinvestment Act as well as horrible decisions taken by certain Wall Street types to cope with the same. Wars tend to have an economic simulative effect. The Great Depression, for instance, was not ended by anything FDR or the New Deal did, but rather by World War Two.

There is explanation that an endorsement by Al Qaeda would actually have the opposite effect:

Al Qaeda—with the willing participation of the mainstream media—may be engaging in a little reverse psychology. The Washington Post even admits this when it says, “Some terrorism experts said the support for McCain could be mere bluster by a group that may have more to fear from a McCain presidency.”

The idea goes like this. Al Qaeda more or less “endorses” John McCain, using a madcap economic theory that only an Obama supporter would find credible. The western media trumpets this “endorsement” as “proof” that Al Qaeda is actually more afraid of Barack Obama than John McCain. Enough undecided voters are pushed to the Obama column to ensure victory.

Of course even a slight examination of the premise suggests that it is the equivalent of the Soviets announcing in October 1980 that they really, really would prefer Ronald Reagan to win, since he would “wreck the economy” doing his military buildup. The reality worked out just a little differently.

Al Qaeda and the people who analyze the terrorist group suggest that a Al Qaeda warning about new terrorist attacks in October, 2004 may have placed President Bush over the top in his race against John Kerry. Al Qaeda seems to be trying to pull something like that in reverse. And the media is trying to help it.

Source:On Al-Qaeda Web Sites, Joy Over U.S. Crisis, Support for McCain, Joby Warrick and Karen DeYoung, Washington Post, October 22, 2008

Another article:

Which Candidate is Al Qaeda’s Choice?

The McCain campaign aggressively pushed back against stories in the Washington Post and the Associated Press about a commentary posted on the website al-Hesbah, which some have suggested is linked to al Qaeda, calling for Al Qaeda supporters to help elect Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.

“Al Qaeda will have to support McCain in the coming election,” the commenter said, arguing that McCain would continued the “failing march of his predecessor, Bush.”

The poster, Muhammad Haafid — who experts say is said to NOT have “a direct affiliation with Al Qaeda plans or knowledge of its operations” — also said that a terrorist strike against the U.S. “will push the Americans deliberately to vote for McCain so that he takes revenge for them against al-Qaeda. Al Qaeda then will succeed in exhausting America.”

Adam Raisman, a senior analyst for the Site Intelligence Group, which monitors the al-Hesbah website, told the Post that “The idea in the jihadist forums is that McCain would be a faithful ‘son of Bush’ — someone they see as a jingoist and a war hawk. They think that, to succeed in a war of attrition, they need a leader in Washington like McCain.”

“If one takes one individual Islamist blogger from one terrorist Islamist blog, who has come up with this statement that it would be good to have McCain in the White House, I think one has to consider the motives,” responded former CIA director Jim Woolsey, a McCain supporter.

On a conference call arranged by the McCain campaign, Woolsey said that Haafid “knows that the endorsement of people like him is a kiss of death, figuratively and literally, so it seems to me it’s pretty clear that by making this statement that he wants, that it would be a good thing for McCain to be President, he is clearly trying to damage John McCain, not speaking from his heart. So I must say I think the overall structure of the debate as one analyzes it coming out of this story taken at face value is quite remarkable.”

More importantly, Woolsey said, McCain as one of the original proponents of the surge strategy in Iraq has been responsible for crippling Al Qaeda.

“On important aspect of the change in strategy was to link up with the Sunnis and the Awakening Movement in the Anbar Province and to cooperate in going after Al Qaeda in Iraq,” Woolsey said. “In posting after posting, it was clear from al-Qaeda itself and from Bin Laden’s statements and Zawahiri’s statements that this link up which John McCain was essentially the father of, this change in strategy, was what was causing al-Qaeda in Iraq, which Al Qaeda put at right in front of their struggle, the biggest difficulty and the biggest problem. It was killing Al Qaeda in Iraq, leaders that drew the biggest concern from Al Qaeda and from really all of the Islamists.”

Concluded the former CIA director: “John McCain was responsible as much as anyone in the country for that turn around. It is ridiculous to believe that in its heart of hearts Al Qaeda wants John McCain to be the President. And it is ludicrous.”

McCain’s senior foreign policy adviser Randy Scheunemann said, “if we are going to talk about who had got support from terrorist groups in this election I am going to read some quotes, I am not going to characterize them, I will let others judge whether the amount of expression of support or opposition whether they amount to expressions of endorsement or opposition.

“First, this week a Hamas spokesman, Ahmed Yousef, said quote, ‘I do believe Mr. Biden is a great man and we do count on him as also a good partner with Mr. Obama to put the right policy regarding how to handle problems in the region. It is good for America to have the new administration with someone like Mr. Obama and his vision for change. I do believe actually with this administration, the Bush administration, we don’t have luck in ending our isolation. We as Palestinians are thinking we might have better luck with the new administration if Obama wins the election. I do believe that he will change American foreign policy in the way they are handling the Middle East.’

Scheunemann continued, “Second, last month when Iranian President Ahmadinejad was in the United States, he was asked by a student whether he supports Democratic nominee Barack Obama or Republican John McCain. This is what president Ahmadinejad, who has called for the extinction of Israel has said, quote, ‘the American government 28 years ago decided to cut its own ties with Iran. We do prefer to have relations whereas one of the candidates in this election would prefer that.’ I think everybody on this call understands which candidate for president has endorsed unconditional meetings with president Ahmadinejad.

“Three, from Muammar Qaddafi of Libya, he said talking about Obama ‘all the people in the Arab and Islamic world and in Africa applauded this man. They welcomed him and prayed for him and for his success and they may have even been involved in legitimate contribution campaign to enable him to win the American presidency.'”

The McCain adviser then seemed to suggest that Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., would clearly be Al Qaeda’s choice.

“Only Senator Obama has advocated withdrawal and surrender to Al Qaeda in Iraq when Al Qaeda was at the peak of its power,” he said. “Senator Obama advocated a withdrawal and voted against funding for our troops while we were engaged in fighting with Al Qaeda in early 2007, when Al Qaeda was at the peak of its power.”

The Obama campaign had no comment about Haafid’s posting.

Well, boys and girls, maybe Chicken Little is right and the sky really IS falling. And I really CAN get you a great deal on swampland too. Step right UP.

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~ by irishgrl on October 29, 2008.

13 Responses to “…If you believe THIS, then have I got some swampland for you!”

  1. I would hardly call the New York Times, the Washington Post, or the Associated Press my hometown paper, Hillary. You just keep getting more and more angry. I assume you must not have gotten much sleep last night. Me, I had forgotten about YOU entirely until I saw your little name on my WordPress site this morning. Pathetic. It must feel so horrible to wake up every morning and remember who you are and what you’ve done with yourself.

    From the Washington Post, screwball:

    “…the comments summarized what has emerged as a consensus view on extremist sites, said Adam Raisman, a senior analyst for the Site Intelligence Group, which monitors Islamist Web pages. Site provided translations of the comments to The Washington Post.

    “The idea in the jihadist forums is that McCain would be a faithful ‘son of Bush’ — someone they see as a jingoist and a war hawk,” Raisman said. “They think that, to succeed in a war of attrition, they need a leader in Washington like McCain.”

    Islamist militants have generally had less to say about Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois. Leaders of the Iranian-backed group Hezbollah expressed a favorable view of Obama during the primary campaign but later rejected the Democrat after he delivered speeches expressing support for Israel.”

    YouTube has plenty of video from plenty of mouthpieces saying it ain’t so crazy. you know, for an AVID DEMOCRAT, you sure sound like something different. Who did you REALLY vote for in 2004, you traiterous hussy?

    NUFF SAID (gag).

  2. If you knew how to read, or had any discernment at ALL, you would have seen that what they were reporting was in fact a comment by an extremist site that Al-Qaeda “should” endorse McCain. Al-Qaeda itself made no such endorsement. And, no paper has said that they had. EEJIT.

    Yawn. Nice try with the baiting, doofus. Unfortunately for you, I got yer number and its ZERO. Dont you have some old fart to terrorize at your work? Im sure they cant wait to see yer cheerful face you ghoul.

    NUFF SAID. (eat THAT you hoser)

  3. by the way, please feel free to continue spewing your verbal vomit hither and yon. especially yon. or yawn, as the case may be. You are immensely entertaining in a pathetic sort of way…

    NUFF SAID NUFF SAID NUFF SAID.
    NUFF SAID.

  4. Hoser. You really wanna date yourself like that? Anywho’s, I know you’re a HUGE McCain supporter and all, but I thought you might want to know that the NY Times states today:

    “While both presidential candidates enter the campaign’s final week promising to be the better fiscal steward, each has outlined tax and spending proposals that would make annual budget deficits worse, analysts say, with Senator John McCain likely to create a deeper hole than Senator Barack Obama would.”

    So I’m sorry, but I simply cannot join with you in your calls for a McCain presidency.

    I’m glad you like my voice. makes me feel good to know I’m making people feel better about their lives. And btw, I don’t WORK at the old folks home, I’ve been COURT ORDERED to complete my COMMUNITY SERVICE there, so take THAT.

  5. Nice try Pedantic. I said no such thing. Please go back and reacquaint yourself with my previous replies, being particularly careful to note the part where I said I would most likely vote for Obama (whilst holding my nose).

    You’re evidently stuck on stupid. Why am I not surprised?

    Yeah, community service. you. there’s a oxymoron if ever I heard one. Kinda like Military efficiency. Of course you would have to be ORDERED to do community service, because you sure as HELL wouldnt do it on your own. Im also not surprised to learn you dont work. Nope. That explains a lot.

  6. Apparently, neither do you.

  7. tsk tsk. you just wish you had a job like mine.

  8. Pendel, stop annoying your sister, Irish, stop provoking your brother.

    Don’t you make me turn this van around!

  9. *laughs hysterically*
    I woulda done it outloud, had I been at home, and not in the office at school.
    However, I have a different comparison I won’t suggest – figuring y’all know it, and I don’t wanna get bitch-slapped by anyone for it.

    Today has just been the day for one-liners for some reason, though…..Awesome, yet strange.

    But, Carrots, why a van? Granted, general parental traveling vehicle, but you gotta have some class. Unless we’re talking old-school van, then awesome.

  10. I was avoiding the other comparison for that very reason, but vans are too classy! I was picturing a huge mobile home/hippy van sort of thing, but still, normal vans are nice too.

  11. They could be classy. Depending on the kind.
    But the kind you said, it works.

  12. but HE started it……….. 😛

    and I like vans. they have possibilities.

  13. ps: are we there yet?

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