Anonymous. Scientology’s worst nightmare.


I first heard of this group thru Radar Magazine (link), and it seems that the Magazine has monitored Anonymous’ doings for quite some time. For those who dont know, Anonymous is an underground organization committed to toppling the farce that is Scientology. Scientology is rabid in its pursuit of its critics, using tactics that would be right at home in the CIA. With its deep pockets, it initiates expensive legal actions most people are unable to defend themselves against. It also has no problem falling back on the tried and true methods of intimidation and blackmail, as this young man found out:

A little more than a week ago, Jonathan (he asked his last name not be repeated again), who’d joined a Facebook group called “I Support Anonymous” and attended their protests, answered a knock at the door of his parents’ L.A.-area home, where he lives while attending community college. A mustachioed man in a suit and claiming to be from the law firm of Latham and Watkins was holding a “file” and asked to speak to Jonathan’s parents by name, he recently told Radar. He told the mystery man his parents weren’t available and offered to take the package for them. “No,” the man said. “I can’t legally give this to you.” Jonathan shrugged and told him to come back later. That’s when things got weird.

Later a friend of the family came over and said Mr. Mustachio was hanging out in front of the house and had asked her if she was Jonathan’s mom. When she said no, he waited until Jonathan’s parents did arrive, then handed them the file and said, “This is a courtesy letter. No charges are being filed yet. But your son may be involved in terrorist activity.” And then he left. Inside the package was a letter accusing Jonathan of terrorism and a DVD copy of the YouTube video, he says.

“I’m a mix between flattered and frightened that they’d consider me such a threat,” Jonathan says. Though he’s been labeled a leader in the group, he insists, “I’m not a hacker, a techie, or anything. I went to a couple protests, and I organized an after-party after one, where we all ate Indian food. That’s it.”

A Church of Scientology spokesperson says the group does employ various lawyers across the country to deal with what she tells Radar are “acts of violence, terrorism, and death threats,” but adds, “It is not true that lawyers from any firm representing the Church have visited anyone. If anyone is suggesting otherwise, that is false.”

Nevertheless, Jonathan said the DVD of Scientologists’ video and the accusation that their son was a terrorist concerned his parents. “[They] told me that while they understood what I was doing, it’s not worth it to have psychos threatening our family. And I agreed.” He’s publicly declared he’s done with Anonymous. “I can’t. I live at home, and these creepy guys started knocking on our door and handing my parents letters … Anyway, I’m not protesting anymore.

source: http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2008/03/anonymous-scientology-anonymousfacts-youtube-video.php]

Paulette Cooper can also attest to the consequences of doing battle with Scientology:

It began in 1968 when she wrote a story, “The Scandal of Scientology,” for Queen, a British magazine. Despite receiving a death threat, Cooper decided to write a book on the topic. “I was naive and had no idea of the horrors that lay in store for me,” she writes.

A series of lawsuits by the Church of Scientology convinced the publisher of Cooper’s book to issue an apology and a recall, but the forces she had unleashed were not satisfied. First, Cooper discovered her phone was being tapped. Then, her cousin was assaulted by a man who, posing as a flower-deliveryman, gained entrance to her apartment and pulled a pistol on her. (The gun jammed.) When Cooper moved to a more secure building, someone sent 300 of her neighbors an anonymous letter claiming she was a prostitute and had molested a child.

It got worse.

Cooper was arrested and charged with mailing an anonymous bomb threat to a Scientology spokesman. In front of a grand jury, the prosecutor revealed that her fingerprints were on the letter. Certain she was going to prison for a crime she hadn’t committed, Cooper contemplated suicide. Her fiancée left her. She hired a private investigator—none other than wiretapping suspect Anthony Pellicano—who proved useless. Her weight dwindled to 83 pounds.

Her luck finally turned after a Scottish professor who was writing a book on Scientology provided prosecutors with information about “fair game”—the Church doctrine that encourages Scientologists to attack their enemies by any means. Cooper also persuaded a neurologist to inject her with truth serum and interrogate her to prove she was telling the truth. The government dropped its case.

In 1977, an FBI raid on Scientology offices revealed the truth: Cooper was the target of something code-named “Operation Freakout,” a scheme intended to land her in jail or in a mental ward. She concluded that a man who had stayed in her apartment prior to her arrest had been a Scientologist who had stolen paper with her fingerprints on it to forge the bomb threat.

“I sometimes get discouraged because Scientology gets so much assistance and publicity from people like Tom Cruise and John Travolta, she writes. “As for me, I often wish I had never even heard the word ‘Scientology.’ But given the same situation, I would still do it all over again. I would not have been capable of remaining quiet, because I learned too many scary things and talked to too many people who were being hurt.”

Anonymous has taken a few hits, namely an attempt by Scientology to have Anonymous videos removed from You Tube.

The “Message to Scientology” video that launched Anonymous’ attacks against the Church of Scientology was removed by YouTube yesterday due to a “terms of use violation.”

The video—which featured an ominous computer-generated voice warning the church that “Anonymous has … decided that your organization should be destroyed” against a creepy backdrop of gathering clouds—sparked a wide-ranging assault on Scientology, from denial-of-service-attacks on the church’s website to a worldwide protest at nearly 100 Scientology offices last weekend that drew roughly 6,000 people. It had been viewed more than 2.3 million times before it was removed.

The Anonymous attacks themselves were motivated by the church’s successful effort to force YouTube to remove the video of Tom Cruise going crazy Scientology-style that was briefly posted last month. That video is available here.

According to Anonymous members, “Message to Scientology” was removed after another video, also purporting to be from Anonymous, was posted and quickly removed yesterday that included a threat to blow up a Scientology building in Los Angeles.

“As of right now we have contacted a lawyer and are going to do everything we can to get the video put back up,” says an Anonymous member via e-mail. “The bomb threat video was not us—in fact, we were the ones that got it taken down. A mass movement by Anon online got the video flagged numerous times, taken down, and Anonymous itself even contacted the FBI via their website and phoned them.”

Scientology critics speculate that the threat may have been designed to make Anonymous appear to be violent and to convince YouTube to take down the original message.

A spokeswoman for the FBI’s Los Angeles field office confirmed to Radar that the agency had been notified about the video. “The only thing I can tell you is that we are aware of the threat and we are looking into the matter,” she said.

Anonymous has responded with a new video warning Google, which owns YouTube, that “if you are working in conjunction with the church, we must remind you of your founding principle: Do no evil.”

Anonymous members have reposted the original video numerous times; it can be viewed (for now) here.

The Church of Scientology and YouTube did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

UPDATE:

The Anonymous video has been reinstated by YouTube after inquiries from Radar, and can be seen here. In a statement, a YouTube spokeswpman said, “We are committed to preserving YouTube as an important platform for expression of all kinds, while also ensuring that the site remains a safe environment for our users. In this case, we have reinstated a video that, upon review, does not violate our terms of service.”

Anonymous lost no time in posting the video proof of their victory:

Anonymous may or may not have been behind the recent hacking of Sarah Palin’s email and Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly’s website, but they are certainly high on the list of suspects:

As of this morning, Gawker’s post from yesterday, “Exclusive: Sarah Palin’s Personal Emails,” had 750,000 pageviews. The post went up at 1:03 p.m. “Pareene is about to get PAID,” a Gawker staff member said via IM yesterday, of that post’s author, Alex Pareene, just after the post went live. (A majority of the staff there receive money based on traffic volume.) True! He was about to get paid. Also, funnily enough, a post called “Group Posts E-Mail Hacked From Palin Account” had gone up on Wired at 12:50 p.m. yesterday.

Wired’s second paragraph went like this: “The internet griefers known as Anonymous took credit for the intrusion, and screenshots of e-mail messages and photos belonging to the Alaska governor have been published by WikiLeaks.”

Oh. So WikiLeaks had gotten and posted the information that was now being posted everywhere.

But who got the attention? Gawker, naturally. Wired was acting like a tired old news organization. They were treating the hack as something to be reported on—not as information to be broadcast.

Wired even wrote, “WikiLeaks said in a press release sent to reporters that Anonymous gained access to Palin’s e-mail account around midnight Tuesday.” What is all this about giving credit to where one was given information?

Wired.com, by 2:30 p.m. on Thursday, had received about 315,000 pageviews to its item.

This was not the first time Gawker did this packaging brilliantly. (To be fair! We should note that there are many Gawker exclusives that are both exclusive and exciting!)

There was, of course, the great Scientology episode of January, 2008. The post, of a video of Tom Cruise, has received nearly 3 million pageviews since. Wrote owner-editor Nick Denton in the post, “This video’s been passed around privately by reporters and writers investigating Cruise’s ties with Scientology. Most reporters have been wary of taking on the Scientologists, because they have a history of both litigation, and the harassment of critics.”

Denton noted that some other websites had taken the video down, including, apparently, Radar’s, and wrote that “Gawker is now hosting a copy of the video; it’s newsworthy; and we will not be removing it.”

The New York Observer was already hosting it—they’d posted it the day before this particular Gawker post. (Update: There had been a previous Gawker post, on the Sunday prior, using YouTube as well. The second time, Gawker didn’t make that mistake.) Unfortunately, the Observer doesn’t have a dedicated video player of their own—so when YouTube took it down, away it went as well

But they didn’t take it down. (The Observer post received 8,632 pageviews, most of them coming the day after it was posted.) This was also the case for Radar, which kept the post up and re-embedded video as soon as another version was available.

The Cruise video was exclusive to no one—I’d been emailed links and passwords to the site that hosted the video by the same source that provided it to Gawker. “It would be irresponsible for me not to share this with everyone on the internet…” wrote the source to me and some others on January 13.

Then, on January 15, that source shipped a DVD of the videos to Gawker Media. They got the Cruise video up online that morning.

So where Gawker won was in its packaging of the news, and in being gung-ho about working with the source (which is where other outlets failed!) and in its promotion of itself as standing up to the legal machine of Scientology. (Which, at the time of posting, of course it hadn’t yet, because, uh, it hadn’t been posted yet.)

And again, with the Palin emails, Gawker is painting itself as a victim of repressive attacks—including, possibly, by law enforcement—to give the appearance of a lone media outlet standing strong against outcry. Which, you know, it is! They are indeed receiving outcry.

In a free society we have to tolerate these scummy websites that rebroadcast Sarah Palin’s hacked emails, but why can’t we go down to the publisher’s house and put him in cuffs is exactly what Bill O’Reilly wanted to know last night—as posted on Gawker. Because media commentators, such as Bill O’Reilly, aren’t that smart, they conflate the people with the “exclusive” with the hackers that obtained the documents.

But they sure do feed Gawker’s traffic while peddling outrage.

“It’s the nature of the media business to take profits from the suffering of others,” wrote Gawker night editor Ryan Tate last night, writing about how the Wall Street Journal is making the most of the financial crisis. Well, it is. But it’s far more sophisticated to make profits from trumpeting your own suffering.

In any event, this is getting very VERY interesting….

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~ by irishgrl on September 21, 2008.

16 Responses to “Anonymous. Scientology’s worst nightmare.”

  1. THE ETERNAL FIGHT BETWEEN RONBOTS AND RONBOT-HUNTERS WILL NEVER END!

    The Scientologists still under the mind control of the anti-God Cult’s Ronbot staff, still have not received full disclosure on the facts that Ex-Scientologists now know about THE GREATEST SCAM ON EARTH!!.

    The Ronbots still in the Anti-God Cult are not allowed to question ANYTHING and are not allowed to research anything. Yet they are encouraged under the Fair-Game policy to hurt, harm, sue, slander, attack, hit, abuse, libel, lie, scam, rob, etc. or even kill Ex-Scientologists or their own families who dare to expose the facts and the truth.

    These Ronbots—now called ZOMBIES AND SCILONS by the non-ex-scientology public, are used as sacrificial lambs by the Cult to open groundless and frivolous lawsuits only designed to destroy and make the ex-Scientologists and the public afraid to expose them.

    But “Ronbot Hunters” are now learning the UCC and Common law remedies to stop and destroy the Godless Ronbots — who allowed un-ethical lawsuits to be made in their names.

    The Ronbots use the anti-God “Fair-Game” policy to destroy Ex-Scientologists, innocent mothers and fathers and now Ronbot Hunters are learning to use the Constitution and Commercial remedies, contract laws and the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC) to protect their rights.

    THE ETERNAL FIGHT OF GOOD VS. EVIL HAS A NEW FACE.

    The fact that fanatical Ronbots are not allowed to read what they will or desire, tells you that the Cult fears knowledge of the truth.

    But the truth can only be exposed by “the statements of the majority”, with personal first hand knowledge of Scientology.

    Since Ronbots never know all the facts, their statements in defense of the Cult is biased, because they are prohibited from research of the facts – their opinions are also invalid.

    To learn the truth — you must learn what the MAJORITY of free-minded Ex-Scientologists claim.

    They claim this well known fact—that the Church of Scientology is a GODLESS CULT.

    They also claim that the Study technology of Dianetics was stolen from two laws of nature. Physiological Reactions and the laws of Cause and Effect.

    This evil anti-god cult has its own Navy and armed bases, CIA type agencies, saboteurs, assassins, bullies to hit and set you up, infiltrators and spies in other churches and in the government. They have brain-washed Ronbots with weapons of mass destruction (fully automatic) just ready to blow you away. They are dangerous to all mankind and to all real religions of the world.

    Do not fear to learn what both sides have to say on any issue. Always seek full disclosure on everything.

    Read what Ex-Scientologists have to say, find out what the MAJORITY CLAIMS.

    Find the truth and never allow others to tell you what to think, do or say. Always seek out the truth — even if you will be fired or kicked-out from the Cult.

    Don’t be a ZOMBIE – use your own self-determinism –dare to demand the truth!!!

    FREEDON OF RELIGION — IS ALSO FREEDOM TO LEARN THE TRUTH.

    Sincerely yours,

    Ronbothunter
    All Rights Reserved

  2. Nuff Said!

  3. i’m researching anonymous for an article i’m writing for college-if anyone could help me out with any more information, that would be great. this article was really helpful irishgirl-thanks for it.
    some things i’m interested in:
    how did anonymous form-were ex-scientologists posting their experiences on the web and find each other through that? do they consider what they post as “news”?

  4. The main problem I have with all of this is, if all these horror stories about the Churches of Scientology are true, why isn’t something happening with it on a law-enforcement level? I’ve read conspiracy sites that say that Scientology has the FBI, the IRS, judges, cops, and practically the entire U.S. Government under their control, and I can’t swallow that kind of kook talk.

    If there really are Scientology slave-labor camps where people are being held against their will, and if people really are being stalked and harassed by Scientology, it should be a very simple thing to blow the lid off all this in a high-profile court case, or a congressional investigation. I keep waiting for this to happen – I’ve been waiting for 20 years now, in fact – yet it never comes. Scientology was under so much intense worldwide scrutiny after the Lisa McPherson incident, that all this other stuff would have come out if it was true, one would think.

    But it didn’t.

    If Scientology is really committing these atrocities, someone needs to do something REAL about it, not holding monthly protest-rally cake-eating parties in stupid masks with crudely misspelled cardboard signs. Let’s straight up and get real.

    You want to expose Scientology? Meet with your congresspersons. Don’t call them. Don’t email them. Drive to their office and schedule a meeting and bring documentation, something that isn’t just hearsay or rumor. Protests make people feel like they’re accomplishing something because they can always say “we’re trying to spread awareness”, but that’s always been the crutch of a lazy activist, even since hippie times in the 60s. You want to get this Scientology problem nipped in the bud once and for all, take it to the Federal Government and don’t take no for an answer. Instead of protesting Scientology churches, a better idea is to protest outside the WHITE HOUSE for their failing to investigate the cult. (That is, if we really have something for them to investigate. We, uh, DO, don’t we?)

    But that’s not as much FUN as having wacky Anonymous cake-eating parties in homemade Xenu t-shirts, of course. So the question is, is this just “for the lulz” or do we really want to get to the bottom of this thing, once and for all?

  5. Perhaps you missed this bit:

    In 1977, an FBI raid on Scientology offices revealed the truth: Cooper was the target of something code-named “Operation Freakout,” a scheme intended to land her in jail or in a mental ward.

    the FBI surely knows. The fact that our Government isnt cracking down on this renegade cult makes me wonder if they arent tacitly allowing scientology to continue for nefarious reasons of their own.

    by the way, did you know that a preponderance of FBI agents are Mormons? That ought to get you to think about what is done vs. what is NOT done and WHY….as I said in an earlier post, religion is a HUGE factor in what goes on behind the scenes…

  6. 1977 was decades ago. I thought it should have been obvious that I’m talking about law enforcement action RIGHT NOW, THIS MINUTE, not back in the Jimmy Carter administration.

    So the FBI and the CIA are covering Scientology’s ass for “nefarious reasons”? And possibly involving the Mormons??

    Uh, if that’s really the case, then we are all totally screwed.

    But again, it would indicate EVEN MORE that we should be marching and lobbying in Washington DC and the UK Parliament, rather than just outside Orgs.

  7. It was obvious 30 years ago. Therefore the fact that its allowed to go on this long unmolested should tell you something.

    also, you posted just as I was providing a link. please see the bold part of my reply above.
    then there’s this:

    * Because young Mormon men have served in and studied the languages of foreign countries throughout the world, large numbers of them have been hired by the federal Central Intelligence Agency and therefore are in control of a significant amount of CIA activities.

    * Many Mormon men have been hired by the FBI, a preponderance when considering their proportion to the percentage of the population. source

  8. It is my belief Scientology has continued to exist for several reasons.

    Before the Internet they were able to suppress most criticism about it in the media (see Time mag link) critics (Paulette Cooper) and scare ex-Scientologists from speaking out by using aggressive litigation, “fair gaming” and blackmail. While they don’t have control of the US government by a long shot (Anonymous would all been hunted down by the FBI if it was true), they have found members of local, state or federal government who sympathize with them.

    The other reason is because of the lack of criticism and interest from citizens , local law enforcement and the FBI have not had enough complaints to investigate these clams.

    In conclusion the extensive amount of money they have available to them has kept them safe for all these years.
    Anonymous HAS contacted congressmen and other government agencies around the world and I request anyone who concerned about them to do so as well.

    http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2005/06/30/scientology/

  9. There is that as well as the fact that religions are allowed to exist unmolested due to Freedom of Religion guaranteed in the Constitution. However, I would posit that by engaging in clandestine activities which violate certain rights and protections (for example, the practice of engaging in slander or mafioso type strongarm tactics) would actually place THIS religion within the realm of criminal activity thus negating any sort of protection. by the way, Im not a member of salon.com, so I cant access the article you linked to….sorry 😦

  10. Are you familiar with the origins of “Scientologie”?
    With http://www.ingo-heinemann.de/Nordenholz.htm
    With Martin Bormann http://www.polylog.tv/fightclub/videocast/10693/#comments
    With “Hubbard+O.T.O.” & Mr. Kentroversy’s Tapes & Papers (died July 30th )
    http://www.redicecreationsfilm.com/radio/2007/01jan/RICR-070121-kbentkowski.mp3

    ‘nuff said? wait! here comes the ultimate nail:
    church became kino http://www.bautz.de/bbkl/k/Kino.shtml
    Und Kino wurde zur Zeitgeist-Kirche.
    http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesuitentheater
    „The Goebbels of Scientology” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gePLI7ZTIB0

    http://www.mtv.de/news/Will-Smith-gruendet-Scientology-Schule/19226280
    Es geht doch nichts über gedankliche Klarheit …
    about Tetragrammaton Clerics http://www.grammatonpress.com/author.htm
    http://www.amazon.com/Prince-City-Giuliani-Genius-American/dp/1594031495
    and “The Prince of the City” http://spirituallysmart.com/giuliani.html

  11. Anonymous is not an “underground organization.” Anonymous is neither underground nor an organization.

  12. THE REASON why the crime syndicate has not been dismantled by Federal law enforcement authorities was covered in Lt. Ray Emmons’ summary report to his superiors, extracts of which can be found at:

    http://www.skeptictank.org/hs/cwfedmon.htm

    The government agent outlines the tools and funding needed to raid, arrest, indict, and inprison the Scientology crime syndicate’s ringleraders, crime bosses, and “individuals working in collusion” with Scientology, and his summary report covered only the efforts within the United States, a bountary Canada, and interoperating INTERPOL offices.

    The Emmons Report outlines the need for Congressional funding to dismantle the criminal enterprise. Congressional funding is a political arena and because the criminal enterprise is mistakenly believed to be a religion or a church by some percentage of the American populace, politiclly the granting of the Congressional funding required to even instigate the first steps toward removing Scientology has been deemed unfavory to the point where Scientology’s crime bosses are not overly concerned about an enterprise-wide series of raids and inprisonments.

    Read the Emmons Report and also perform a Google search on the history of the law enforcement officer and the Federal agencies to which he reported, and you will see why Scientology’s activities continue virtually unabaited.

    Also be sure to research “Operation Snow White” which is a Scientology program which continues today (the operation was never recalled in part because it’s financially successful as well as because the drug addled madman L. Ron Hubbard who started the project died screaming with psych drugs in his system, yelling about invisible murdered space alien infestations he called “Body Thetans,” because he could cancel the project.)

    Anonymous is doing the job that law enforcement _wants_ to do but lacks the political and financial wherewithall to do. In fact Anonymous is also doing the job that health officials are supposed to be doing had such officials not virtually abdicated their charters.

    It all stems from a matter of funding. We don’t have a Kennedy in the White House these days the way we did when the more traditional Italian Mafias and crime mobs were operating in force so covertly as they once did (before going “legitimate” in public, any way.)

    Anonymous is addressing itself to the root of any criminal enterprise: revenues. Anonymous pickets and protests with an attitude that the actual _customers_ who fall for the bait-and-switch bunko frauds and other crimes are victims, and Anonymous brings with them a wit, humor, and creativity that is upbeat, bright, cheerful, and what’s more important, _legal_ on all fronts.

    The channers, on the other hand, from which Anonymous sprang see Anonymous as being a bastard child, one which has set aside their family’s culture and adopted unsavory behavior. The channers hate what Anonymous has become because Anonymous has become a force for good, beneficial, “moralfags,” in the rhetoric of the channers.

    Anonymous is covered in positive rhetoric in the mainstream media and within legitimate progressive Internet venues. Channers hate that and consider antics conducted by “>30s” — people over 30 years old — to be disgusting (such as Rick Rolling or otherwise dancing in the streets, presenting “caek” and other memetic behavioral antics.

    The Palin’s illegal email account “hack” by a Channer is being touted by the ignorant mainstream media as an Anonymous “hack” when in fact it is no such thing. 4chan.com is a Channer forum. Enturbulation.org is an Anonymous forum. Examine the two and you’ll see that Channers are a distinct species from Anonymous even though Anonymous is a child of 4chan.

    Anyone may email me with any questions about any of this nonsense, yet it’s all on the Internet. Google is your friend.

    My opinions only and only my opinions, as always.

  13. 1) Scientology could be prosecuted under RICO if Law Enforcement were so inclined. To wit:

    “In the 1980’s, civil lawyers noticed section 1964(c) of the RICO Act, which allows civil claims to be brought by any person injured in their business or property by reason of a RICO violation. Any person who succeeded in establishing a civil RICO claim would automatically receive judgment in the amount of three times their actual damages and would be awarded their costs and attorneys’ fees. The financial windfall available under RICO inspired the creativity of lawyers across the nation, and by the late 1980’s, RICO was a (if not the most) commonly asserted claim in federal court.”

    I find it humorous that folks attached to legal interpretation for a living had difficulty deciphering Scientology documents! Not only that, but their reasoning that it would take too many people too much time is ludicrous in the extreme…I seem to recall a nation being held hostage to Ken Starr’s single minded pursuit of the sex life of a President as a case in point…

    2) Your report by Ray Emmons is interesting in that it hints at possible roadblocks being put up against the progress of the prosecution:

    “The documents in the Armstrong case could not or would not be obtained, the documents explaining Scientology practices and policies were not going to be used in court due their complexity and the other investigators assigned to this task force were constantly being assigned to other assignments not relating to Scientology.”

    I can tell you based on my experience with the Courts and the legal system in general (I have worked for Attorneys and as a Court Clerk) I know very intimately how the system works. If a party was so inclined, a case could be kept in limbo indefinitely until the other party gives up.

    3) At no time did I indicate that Anonymous was responsible for the Hacking of Palin’s or O’Reilly’s email/website. I only said they were suspect as portrayed by the media, in fact it is the WIRED article that attributes the hack to Anonymous.

    4) I used the term “underground” as in “secret,” which they ARE.
    they wear masks and are extremely careful to preserve their “anonymity” Further, the term organization was meant to imply a cohesive GROUP. If those terms offend you, I can do nothing about that, but I invite you to offer up a better description. I never claimed to be an expert, merely a relater of information, culled and collated from other sources into what I hoped was a succinct assessment of the phenomenon.

    5) Scientology is hardly viewed as a legitimate religion (if you define religion as a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature and purpose of the Universe, with an attendant moral code governing our behavior), particularly when it emphasizes the necessity for large monetary infusions…And from everything I have seen, Scientology is not RESPECTED by “much of the American populace” as you state. On the contrary, the majority of folks seem to ridicule it, and its followers as kooks and cranks, regardless of their relative cachet in Hollywood (for example).
    No, I tend to think that most people see followers of Scientology as misguided or even laughable (as in the case of Tom Cruise) and I predict that to publicly declare oneself a follower of Scientology will be akin to a career implosion. In any event, if I wasnt clear in my presentation, let me make myself clear NOW: I APPLAUD Anonymous, because I DETEST Scientology (I also detest Mormonism, but thats a different topic). I root them on, and posted this article in the hopes that I could bring their efforts to an even wider audience. Perhaps I flatter myself, but if you think about it, every person expressing support for Anonymous is one less person Scientology can hoodwink.
    NUFF SAID.

  14. Thanks for the writing this! I’m new at this game so am trying to catch up.

  15. It was obvious 30 years ago. Therefore the fact that its allowed to go on this long unmolested should tell you something.
    also, you posted just as I was providing a link. please see the bold part of my reply above.
    then there’s this .m-yegy.blogspot.com my blog

  16. a) you must have posted under another name, which I am not aware of, therefore I am not sure which reply I should be focusing on. Or link for that matter.

    as for scientology being allowed to ‘go on this long unmolested’…many criminal groups are operating with the belief that they are getting away with something. Eventually, the other shoe will drop, or they will fade away into that limbo world reserved for other cult oddities that went nowhere.

    It should be noted that it has been aeons since I reviewed any of this material, and do not have perfect recall, however, if you are implying that Scientology has infiltrated law enforcement, then they are no different than the Mormon religion (another cult as far as a lot of people are concerned) is also guilty of infiltrating law enforcement.

    In fact there are many quasi-military groups/agencies that operate with a greater or lesser extent of anonymity, such as the highly paid ill disguised mercenaries that operated with the blessing of the Bush administration in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere.

    Again, finally, I am not an expert on this material, nor have I obsessed over it as apparently some have done…I was merely sharing a fascinating article I came across in a magazine I admired. You are free to disagree, opine, share links, throw tomatoes or whatever, but please dont fool yourself into thinking that your posts are going to keep me awake at night.

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